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the band / Re: WONDERFUL, GLORIOUS - New Eels Album!!!! (February 5th)
« on: October 19, 2012, 06:38:10 PM »
This is excellent news.

I can't wait until November; I'm very eager to hear what kind of approach he has taken this time. I truly hope he has left that basement and gone into a real studio.

Either way, though, I am just glad to hear new material. Plus, the song titles are great, so hopefully the songs themselves do them justice..

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the band / Re: So I finally read the new book....
« on: July 17, 2012, 02:26:43 PM »
At $25, it's not on my must-read list. Plus, I lost most enthusiasm for it when we found out the author said "Please E, edit this and tell what I may and may not say." I got the impression that it turned into a sanitized, over-large press release.

I think Grierson deserves credit for writing about Bad Dude in Love, and the book is worth reading for the very entertaining insights of Carter. In fact, Grierson does a pretty good job of covering the early years of E's career. Unfortunately, the more recent the events being covered get, the more the quality of the book begins to wane. A "santized, over-large press release" is perhaps a tad harsh. However, with a few exceptions, I remember thinking that the second half of the book doesn't really reveal, let along analyse, anything about E and Eels which either (a) couldn't be discovered via Google, or (b) would not be favourable towards E. 

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the band / Re: The Most
« on: July 05, 2012, 04:12:04 PM »
I think everybody else on the board believes "Brave Little Soldier is the hidden gem of the Eels catalogue; I think it is a fairly empty, throwaway, almost Eels-by-numbers kind of song.  It has never received an official release and has only been heard on Eels Orchestra 2000 bootlegs.

I don't think it deserves all the plaudits it gets, and that is the reason why I nominated it for Most Overated Eels song.

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the band / Re: The Most
« on: July 05, 2012, 03:54:14 PM »
I facepalm every time people start gushing about about that song on here. I really think it is the definitive throwaway E track. What is that breakdown all about?

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the band / Re: The Most
« on: July 02, 2012, 03:34:49 PM »
Most optimistic song: "PS, You Rock My World"

Quintessential song: "Last Stop: This Town"

Best advice: "Skywriting"

Best nonsense: "Hidden Track"

Worst song: "Looking Up"

Most underrated: "I Write the B-Sides"

Funniest: "Love of the Loveless live monologue"

Best "E" song: "Manchester Girl"

Best song used in a movie: "My Beloved Monster"

Song I wish would get a release: A studio version of "Cheater's Guide"

Favourite Cover: "Livin' Life"

Most overrated song: "Brave Little Soldier"

Best Instrumental: "Estate Sale"

Best Intro: "Manchild"

Song you love over any other: "3 Speed"





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the band / Re: random EELS thoughts!
« on: February 22, 2012, 08:09:57 PM »
I am in agreement about Hombre Lobo being the best of the trilogy.

It is still a bit disappointing that this is the case. When talk of more albums following first came up I thought: "I imagine the really great stuff is coming. HL must just be something that he has dashed off extremely quick -- like Shootenanny. It won't exactly be filler, but the other albums will probably more in the deeper, higher-class, ESB or Daisies mould." I was wrong.

Also, all this talk of "Somebody Loves You" makes me want to hear that original basement demo which, I think, was put up on the official site back in the day. I think was just E on piano, and it sounded like it was recorded on a boombox. I am pretty sure there was an original demo for "I'm Going to Stop Pretending . . ." as well. I may have got the instrumentation for these recordings wrong -- was one of them played on guitar? -- but they did exist didn't they?   

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I think the difficulty I have in all of this is that, though I appreciate E's music and such, and I'm a fan if nothing else, I still think about him as a biographical curiosity, much the same way people take an interest in, say, Churchill or Hawkings or whoever. And I don't mean to come off like I feel entitled to the man's secrets, but it's natural to want a clearer image, you know?

I totally agree; I am completely the same. I think one of the main reasons his biography interests me so much is the fact that, more than most artists, his lifeis his work -- from the albums themselves, to the "This Is Your Life"-style tours, the work of Eels has been the work of E explicitly documenting and making sense of the events of his life.

It is a shame, therefore, that Grierson's attempt to find out more about the man -- and, accordingly, his work -- has been hampered by the very subject of his enquiry. E's music and his life are both extremely interesting subject matter, but as a biographer you can't do the best job possible with this great material if one of your editors is the man you are writing about. I doubt Behind the Shades would have been quite so compelling a read if Dylan had looked over every proof and highlighted the stories he wanted to stay and those which needed to be removed. 

Still, I don't want to be too down on the book. It really is a decent read -- even for fans who know most of the story like us. Grierson should be credited for giving a fairly detailed account of Bad Dude in Love, even if it is slightly bizarre that he seems to think it is a great piece of work. Indeed, his account does contradict E's own assessment of the record. E claims it is just "one of many recordings he made during those years, and that this recording just happened to be pressed onto vinyl." He seems to suggest it is another home-made, four track deal, whereas Grierson's interview with the album's producer and his account of E's committed attitude in the studio reveal Bad Dude in Love to be much more than that which E claims it to be. 

Moreover, the new interviews with collaborators such as Tommy, Jim Lang, and Huxley are very illuminating.

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I have just recently received my copy. The pictures alone make it a worthwhile purchase. I have read the first 45 pages and, while I do agree that the vast majority includes nothing new for any of the Eels fans on here, there are more than a couple of interesting areas covered in those pages. These are mostly things that were omitted--or just glossed over--in the autobiography.

I am hoping that once I get beyond E's formative years and onto the Eels material, there will be even more new information unearthed. Specifically, I am looking forward to hearing more from the people he has worked with: to hearing there views on the work they and E have done together.

EDIT: I've finished it now. It was a very nice read.

*Spoilers* Discovering just how far his and Tommy's releationship has been repaired was pretty eye opening (they are pretty much close friends now; Tommy even got married at E's house). The fact that Tommy said he and E had actually spoke about reforming the original lineup is also particularly exciting. Anything that gets Butch and E back working together would be great.

Speaking of Butch, it is a shame that he was unable to contribute directly to the book because of some kind of gagging order. Of all the collaborators who are interviewed in the book, it is Butch who I would most like to hear talk about what it is like to work with E.

That is not to say that Butch doesn't get a word in. Grierson has obviously carried out some painstaking research and archival work. He uses quotes from interviews regularly and generally to great effect. One criticism I would make, however, is that there are moments when he perhaps does this too much. Huge blocks of text are often taken up with quotes from interviews, and their is often very little unpacking of the matter of the quote itself from Grierson. However, I do think that I would be less concerned about this if I were a more casual fan -- one who hadn't read all the interviews and pretty much new all the quotes already. If they were falling on fresh ears, maybe I wouldn't have found this to be too much of a problem.

I do agree with the comments above which state that, generally, Grierson, while clearly a fan, isn't fawning. Also, I think it commendable that he doesn't go down the "expose rout," giving a warts-and-all account of some of the more dramatic moments of E and Eels' history.

However, I think sometimes the balance between these two approaches -- that is, being appreciative, yet objectively critical, and being investigative, but in a respectful manner -- is sometimes a little off kilter. This is more so in the case of E's life, rather than the life of Eels. (Indeed, I really like the fact that, when speaking about Tomorrow Morning, Grierson does acknowledge that E could be seen as simply repeating himself. For the record, I really do think that album is a clear-cut case of rehashing.)

My main criticism regarding Grierson's handling of the balancing act between investigation and respect of privacy is in regards to his marriage and divorce. Less than a page is spent on both of these events combined, and the details given are often extremely sketchy. Basic facts, such as when the divorce/separation occurred are not given. And while Grierson does note that, out of respect for E, his ex-wife, and his wishes, many participants were unwilling to speak on the issue, I still think he could have gone a little further. I didn't want a warts-and-all account. But I also think the marriage does play a significant role understanding the man and a portion of his work -- after all, that is the aim of the the book as a whole. And Grierson, unfortunately, steers well clear of the event. Indeed, E himself gives more information on the event himself in his memoir. I think the fact that Grierson doesn't even weave in any of E's memoir comments on the marriage into his own account -- as he often does in many other areas of the book -- might be indicative of the extent to which Grierson was keen to keep within the confines that his subject, E, expected of him. I think ultimately this wish to keep within all boundaries was slightly detrimental to the book as a whole.

Still, Grierson is a very good writer and he gives a good account of the story of Eels so far. It is an account which manages to be very comprehensive for those unfamiliar with the story and which also contains some fresh and extremely worthwhile insights for the more hardcore fans.       

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I'm really looking forward to reading this now. I wonder if Bad Dude in Love will be mentioned?

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the band / Re: random EELS thoughts!
« on: November 10, 2011, 02:56:00 PM »
"Grandfather's Clock Strikes Twelve" could easily be an outtake from Beck's Odelay.

I have always gotten fairly hostile when people make the early-Eels/Beck comparison. I claim that it is a lazy comparison to make. I go on to note that E's vocals are vastly superior to Beck's, and I point to the fact that both Eels and Beck worked extensively with the same producers around the same time.

However, this track does sound uncannily like Beck. In the chorus, the vocals are even similar.

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the band / Re: The Great Eels Next Album Speculatron!
« on: September 25, 2011, 03:53:58 PM »
I'd take any album which isn't self-produced or recorded by Koool G in the basement.


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the band / Re: Another EELS quiz
« on: August 08, 2011, 02:17:33 PM »
Nice idea. I enjoyed completing it and got 70%.

I need to brush up on my Eels sample knowledge. I also have no clue about E being a studio audience member for a talk show. Can anybody enlighten me on that?

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the band / Re: Eels on TV, Films, Etc
« on: August 02, 2011, 07:55:39 PM »
I just saw Butch on the season finale of Treme (HBO). They filmed at the New Orleans Jazz Festival and Lucinda Williams apparently gave them permission to record and show parts of her show.

Butch's hair was really long when they filmed this (whenever that was). Looks awful!  ;D

I logged in to post this info. It was a nice surprise, and I'm glad somebody else picked up on it. He seemed to be really enjoying the performance, and it reminded me of what a truly amazing drummer he was. Eels records are definitely worse off without him on them.

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tomorrow morning / Re: Rate Tomorrow Morning
« on: December 06, 2010, 07:27:14 PM »
1. In Gratitude For This Magnificent Day   *
02. I'm A Hummingbird   **
03. The Morning   **
04. Baby Loves Me   ***
05. Spectacular Girl   *
06. What I Have To Offer   ****
07. This Is Where It Gets Good   **
08. After The Earthquake   *
09. Oh So Lovely   *
10. The Man   ***
11. Looking Up   no stars
12. That’s Not Her Way   **
13. I Like The Way This Is Going   ****
14. Mystery Of Life   **

Bonus CD
01. Swimming Lesson   **
02. St. Elizabeth Story   **
03. Let’s Ruin Julie’s Birthday   ***
04. For You   ****

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the band / Re: RockingEels.com Closed Down
« on: December 06, 2010, 06:23:14 PM »
This is bad news. It was such a great site. It was always my first port of call. I especially liked the downloads section, and I wished I would have made better use of them before they were taken down.

I also completely understand the decision. There is no point putting work into something which isn't appreciated by the person it benefits most.


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