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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2010, 06:55:23 PM »
Shouldn't it be Neels?

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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2010, 07:59:30 PM »
It's Niels.

If you ever want to bug him, spell it Neils, Niles, Miels or other similar variations.

And when I say bug, I mean steam coming out his nose and ears.

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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2010, 08:04:43 PM »
Shouldn't it be Neels?

Or at least Kneels.

I'm going with Meows. It's a bit of a stretch, but I think it works.
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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2010, 08:13:42 PM »


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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2010, 02:29:49 AM »
Or Me:


But yes, for some reason English-speaking people have this uncontrollable urge to spell my name as 'Neils', even tough
- they have a rule that says "i before e, except after c." WELL, apply it then for once, or don't pretend English spelling actually has 'rules'.
- you read in the newspaper every day of the 'Nielsen' company, so they should be familiar with the name (Nielsen means 'son of Niels' just like Johnson means son of John!)

For example, at work I had to go to this administration person to tell her she misspelled my name on an official document and she corrected it. TEN MINUTES later she sent me an email directed to 'Neils'. C'mon, then you're just being stubborn.

One day a guy was at my door, asked me to do a poll. He misspelled my name as Neils.
He was from the Nielsen company.

The other issue is with people insisting on calling me 'Neil' or 'Niles'. Or when they ask my name (at a take-away for example) and when I tell them they look at me as if I am an Alien who just came from another planet and asked them to feed me some human baby brains.

Please wake up people, half of Northern Europe is called Niels. One of the most important scientists ever is called Niels Bohr. If you have any knowledge at all or awareness of the world outside of your own habitat, you should be familiar with the name.

Like, for example, what is this supposed to be: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2211509491&v=wall   you're a fan but you can't spell their name properly? Yes, it must be some uncontrollable urge.

So far my name rant.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2010, 02:35:52 AM by GreatMistake »

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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 05:24:41 AM »
Yes I find it especially strange when people admire a person enough to create a page about them and yet still not know how to spell their name correctly.

It's just a theory but my perception is that older people (in particular) tend to revert to 'Neil' because names with an 's' on the end have a way of sounding like nicknames or a more casual and informal version, at least in English (with obvious exceptions like James). No one would be compelled to say 'Jame', whereas taking the s off Niels sounds similar to the existing name Neil. People who aren't name savvy will ultimately revert to what they are familiar with.

Niles, however, sounds completely different and doesn't really attract any excuses!


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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 08:43:30 AM »
I suppose the problem English people have is that our name Neil has the vowels the other way round, so people make the assumption that your version is the same. I'd also say that if you asked the average person on the street who Niels Bohr is most wouldn't have a clue who he is, let alone know how to spell it.

You're also correct Niels when you say that English spelling has no rules, but for that we can blame whoever's been invading this island and adding their own bits of language to what they found here.

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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2010, 11:10:21 AM »
I suppose the problem English people have is that our name Neil has the vowels the other way round, so people make the assumption that your version is the same. I'd also say that if you asked the average person on the street who Niels Bohr is most wouldn't have a clue who he is, let alone know how to spell it.

You're also correct Niels when you say that English spelling has no rules, but for that we can blame whoever's been invading this island and adding their own bits of language to what they found here.
At least, we have no problem with English words coming from French, the writing is just so logical, because WE have spelling rules!! ;) For the strange spelling, just blame the Germanic language. ;D
I agree on Niels Bohr, I think common people would write it Neils Bore, or something like that, depends on the country. In France, it would even be worse since we don't have the names Neil nor Niels, so people would write it phonetically.
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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2010, 08:42:41 PM »
But yes, for some reason English-speaking people have this uncontrollable urge to spell my name as 'Neils', even tough
- they have a rule that says "i before e, except after c." WELL, apply it then for once, or don't pretend English spelling actually has 'rules'.

Well, given that in we have Neil, Niall, Neal, and (in surnames) Neill, it's pretty difficult to get it right in English alone, let alone in other languages. Obviously that's no excuse for people who work with you and whatever.

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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2010, 04:24:35 AM »
I suppose the problem English people have is that our name Neil has the vowels the other way round, so people make the assumption that your version is the same. I'd also say that if you asked the average person on the street who Niels Bohr is most wouldn't have a clue who he is, let alone know how to spell it.

Hehe, I guess I exaggerated the whole thing a bit, as it was a rant. I don't expect people to know how to spell my name automatically! I know they aren't used to it. But I kind of had two separate points. One point was English-speaking people's refusal to spell my name correctly, even after I tell them. The other thing is that people act as if my name is really weird, while globally speaking Niels is a very common name. The first thing make me feel, in some particular situations, that some people don't really care to do any 'effort'.
I also notice that a lot of English-speaking people 'englishify' the names of people of other countries. For example, if they are French they often have names with the same spelling but completely different pronunciation (like for example 'Vincent'). If I would meet a French person, I would pronounce their name in French even if their name has a Dutch pronunciation. But an English-speaking person simply wouldn't care about the French pronunciation, they would pronounce it in English anyway. I don't like that much.
It seems to be that the English-speaking world is often very focused on their own language/culture, probably also because they have the world dominating language nowadays.

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You're also correct Niels when you say that English spelling has no rules, but for that we can blame whoever's been invading this island and adding their own bits of language to what they found here.

Ehm... You are invaders yourself! The English were a Germanic people who invaded the island and pushed the original Celtic people's in to Wales and Scotland...

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At least, we have no problem with English words coming from French, the writing is just so logical, because WE have spelling rules!! ;) For the strange spelling, just blame the Germanic language. ;D

Hmmm, French is much better in terms of spelling rules than English, but it is still less phonetic than most Germanic languages. (French has lots and lots of silent letters, letters that have different pronunciations depending on the sequence of letters, etc...).
German, Dutch and Scandinavian language spellings are much more 'what you see is what you get'. But then again, Spanish is probably one of the most phonetic spellings out there.
Sir William is right, the reason that English spelling is so weird is because it is a mish mash of the Germanic and Roman language, thanks to the huge French influence on the language.


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Re: it was my birthday last friday and nobody noticed WAHHHHHHHHH
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2010, 07:50:19 AM »


Hmmm, French is much better in terms of spelling rules than English, but it is still less phonetic than most Germanic languages. (French has lots and lots of silent letters, letters that have different pronunciations depending on the sequence of letters, etc...).
German, Dutch and Scandinavian language spellings are much more 'what you see is what you get'. But then again, Spanish is probably one of the most phonetic spellings out there.
Sir William is right, the reason that English spelling is so weird is because it is a mish mash of the Germanic and Roman language, thanks to the huge French influence on the language.
You're right on this point, our orthograph is logical if you know the rules, but for one pronunciation, we can have several spellings with different meanings. For example [so] can be written seau (bucket), sceau (seal, the wax thing to close letters, not the animal), sot (idiot), saut (jump). So, for a foreigner, it must be very confusing. Spanish, but alos Italian are the most transparent languages I know in terms of pronunciation since one spelling gives only one word. That's why they're the easiest Latin languages to learn. The difficult thing in every Latin language is the grammar since we have so many irregular verbs and the conjugation can be pretty hard.
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